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I've had the pleasure of working with m...BKL, <br /><br />I've had the pleasure of working with many forensic scientists over by 40+ years as an attorney.<br /><br />In my experience, none of the forensic scientists I worked with cared if the accused was convicted or acquitted. And they were more than willing to subject themselves to the crucible of cross-examination. <br /><br />Accordingly, to say that their work product in the lab was produced for the primary purpose of establishing an accused guilt or with the goal of targeting a particular defendant is a stretch.<br /><br />The Court, in deciding what hearsay evidence is testimonial, would be wise to distinguish between forensic declarants and ordinary fact declarants such as eyewitnesses to or victims of crimes.<br /><br />But, as I said previously, it doesn't appear that the Court will revisit its testimonial approach or the various formulations of what constitutes testimonial hearsay in this case.Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9532013.post-66944884000419056142024-01-11T20:56:07.097-05:002024-01-11T20:56:07.097-05:00I was present for the argument, and agree that thi...I was present for the argument, and agree that this case will most likely fall in favor of the petitioner, based on the questioning and demenor of the Court. As a forensic scientist however I want to correct a mischaracterization in the briefing and in the comments here. <br /><br />I wonder if this Blog owner, commenters, or any of the Justices has ever met or spoken with a forensic scientist, or spent a day in a lab? Forensic scientists are not looking to :get out of going to court" or avoid court appearances to defend their work and that of their lab - to the contrary, by and large they relish it (notwithstanding the DOJ's questionable prospect of witnesses being "savaged" by the defense, which was brought up twice). <br /><br />Testimony is what makes forensic science "forensic". Forensic scientists are educators of the trier of fact on scientific matters, and the opportunity to educate is one of the things that attracts scientists to this profession. <br /><br />Laboratory management and state and local government that pay the bills, definitely want to manage their scarce resources, so sending the fewest number of witnesses to any given proceeding to meet the constitutional burden, actually makes witnesses available for many more proceedings, and more confrontation. Ultimately however the number of forensic scientists is a fixed resource who can only be in one place at a time, so with more restrictive rules on admissibility, expect more competition to have a witness available when you need them. <br /><br />The sky did not fall after Melenedez Diaz, and wont fall after Smith, but with each ruling in this series it does place a greater and greater burden on labs, making it increasingly difficult to provide witnesses for cases where they are actually needed, and to keep up with the next cases that they will eventually testify to. <br /><br />As was aluded to in this blog, defendants largely don't want the state's impressive witnesses to appear and describe in detail the findings of their examinations, let alone a parade of witnesses all supporting one another. What the defense does enjoy however is the gamesmanship of the roll call - subpoena the whole lab and see if they show up, if yes, then stipulate or plead, if no, move for suppression. This happens a LOT. That's detrimental to defendants who have a legitimate question about limitations of the testing being offered against them by the state.<br /><br />On the notion of having one analyst work a case from beginning to end, thats impractical - what would an automobile cost if we still built cars that way? Labs are dramatically under-resourced, and segmented workflows, automation, batching of cases, all involving more people in the testing, are the innovative ways we have tried to cover those shortfalls. In the event of a restrictive ruling by the Court, labs will continue to perform tests, continue to send people to court, continue to ask for money to meet the casework and testimony demand (and be disappointed), but the scientists will come to work each day, collect their paycheck, enthusiastically and respectfully go to court, testify or not, and go back to work the next day. <br /><br />I know a lot of forensic scientists, but I dont know any who are arguing that we should save money or time by denying a defendant their constitutional right to confront, or that we should return to the Melendez Diaz world of affadavits in lieu of testimony. Furthermore, we acknowledge that the cost of providing that testimony should not be a consideration in terms of this ruling. However, once we see and measure the impacts, let's hope that labs are appropriately resourced to meet the courts increased expectations of witness availability.<br /><br />BKLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9532013.post-62758758901837437222024-01-10T15:11:56.999-05:002024-01-10T15:11:56.999-05:00Kavanaugh & Thomas definitely want to address ...Kavanaugh & Thomas definitely want to address whether Rast's statements were testimonial and what test (primary purpose/objective person; targeted individual; or formality/solemnity) governs the Govt's introduction of hearsay in the context of forensic evidence. <br /><br />I agree, however, the Court is unlikely to address that critical issue in this case.<br /><br />I also agree that the Court will hold that Rast's statements were introduced to prove the truth of his assertions and Rule 703 doesn't alter this conclusion or permit introduction as a conduit around the Confrontation Clause.<br /> Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9532013.post-35846354619068476152024-01-10T13:54:35.984-05:002024-01-10T13:54:35.984-05:00Can I get updates to this blog automatically?Can I get updates to this blog automatically?David LaCrossnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9532013.post-28296762109139510982024-01-04T07:55:37.717-05:002024-01-04T07:55:37.717-05:00สล็อต pg ทาง เข้า slot ทาง เข้า เว็บแตกง่าย สมัครเ...สล็อต pg ทาง เข้า slot ทาง เข้า เว็บแตกง่าย สมัครเล่นวันนี้แจกฟรี ยินดีต้อนรับทุนท่านไปสู่จักรวาลที่สุด PG SLOT แสนจะท้าทายที่พร้อมจะพาคุณไปเปิดประตูสู่ความร่ำรวยอย่างมากมายสล็อต pg ทาง เข้า slot ทาง เข้าhttps://pgslotweb.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9532013.post-52537726489639877182024-01-04T07:55:16.069-05:002024-01-04T07:55:16.069-05:00pg auto เครดิต ฟรี แจกจริงกดรับ เครดิต ฟรี pg slot...pg auto เครดิต ฟรี แจกจริงกดรับ เครดิต ฟรี pg slot ได้ด้วยตัวเอง ชื่นชอบคิดโปรโมชั่นดีๆมาเพื่อลูกค้าที่น่ารักน่าชังของเราเสมอ แต่บทนี้เราจะมากมายล่าวถึงประเด็นการแจกเครดิตฟรีแบบไม่ต้องฝากเลยpg auto เครดิต ฟรีhttps://pgslotweb.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9532013.post-81225221288590541402024-01-03T17:34:16.403-05:002024-01-03T17:34:16.403-05:00I've updated this post slightly. 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